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AUTHOR TALK
January 2004
Julie Sciandra and Laura Pedersen have been friends and occasionally
colleagues for more than twenty years. They walk each other's dogs and also bowl together. Julie usually wins, but Laura insists that this is because Julie's family owned a bowling alley in Buffalo, and thus she has had an unfair advantage.
Julie Sciandra: Did you always want to be a writer?
Laura Pedersen: I was a slow starter, basically a turnip in a sleeper the first few years of my life, and I didn't come on strong academically until much later. Just learning to read was a huge accomplishment for me. I would say the prospect of telling stories first arose in seventh grade. An only child and pathologically shy I realized I had to do something to facilitate interaction. So I started telling a few jokes and funny stories, and found a positive response that led to friendships. After getting yelled at for talking during class, I was forced to start writing and passing notes.
JS: When did you first receive recognition for your writing?
LP: In middle school I won an essay contest for writing about Teddy Roosevelt. And then I won a prize in the declamation contest for a speech about Carrie Nation. But it wasn't until high school that I really hit it bigI was sentenced to community service for a poem I'd written that contained a hidden message.
JS: How do you set about writing a novel like LAST CALL?
LP: I hear a lot of writers say they start with the seed for an idea, such as a character or one particular event, and they don't know where it's going to lead them. That could never work for me. I don't start a book unless I have the beginning and the end. Only the middle is something I can work out as I go.
JS: Do you write every day?
LP: I definitely write checks every day. But I probably work on what will eventually become a book or short story about four days a week, usually between 10:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m., with an hour break for lunch and a few other breaks for running errands or playing with the dogs. I have a very short attention span and work best in spurts, then I need to do something else for a while, like go Rollerblading or play basketball with the kids.
JS: How long does it take you to write a book?
LP: That's a real time-motion study, like how long between when a traffic light in Manhattan turns green and the cab driver behind you leans on his horn. But I'd say a book takes me a year, while doing other things. I suppose that if I sat down with a freezerful of burritos and a vat of chocolate, I could write a novel in eight weeks.
JS: Where do your ideas come from?
LP: From daily life. I live "hard" in the sense that I enjoy being on the
go and having lots of experiences. For instance, I went to the floor of the stock exchange shortly after I turned eighteen. That environment created the foundation for my first book, PLAY MONEY. Journalism has taken me to exotic places like Russia, Turkey, and Cuba. If you want to tell a story but you don't have an idea, I think it's best to go out and do something and then write about it. There are a lot of things I'd love to do but haven't had time yet, and so I'll occasionally imagine a character doing them and use that in a novel. But at the end of the day, my stories are always about living, loving, and dying.
JS: Are the characters based on people you've known in real life?
LP: I borrow bits and pieces from different individuals and then create new people, sort of like a medieval dwarf going from house to house in the middle of the night and stealing the essences of the townsfolk. For instance, my friend Peter Heffley's ninety-year-old mother, Mildred, is the patron saint of worriers and pessimists. We actually look forward to her negative pronouncements and often attempt to evoke them just for entertainment. (Hence the catchphrase, "Who put the dread in Mildred?") I know if I say, "My, that's a lovely orchid, Mrs. Heffley," she'll retort, "It's just about dead." Or if Pete says he has the Fourth of July party all organized, she undoubtedly replies, "There's a storm heading this way." So for the character of Diana in LAST CALL, who is unlike Mrs. Heffley in every other way, I borrowed the fretfulness along with some of her best lines. And many of my charaters are built on a small slice of me that I then exaggerate. For example, in BEGINNER'S LUCK Hallie plays poker, goes to the racetrack, and trades in the stock market. Gil likes plays by Tennessee Williams, Craig is an only child, Olivia is a vegetarian, and Bernard is optimistic and enjoys humor. Those are all based on my own experiences or personality. Plus, I'm a lazy researcher.
JS: How does being a minister influence your writing?
LP: I'm an ordained interfaith minister (we respect all paths), but I don't have a congregation, and I don't give sermons, except to the teenaged Michael. In the not-for-profit world it helps to accomplish things if you're a minister or a politician. As for organized religion, I'm a lifelong Unitarian Universalist. Most Sundays you'll find me sitting in a pew on the far right over at All Souls in Manhattan, reflecting on the UU Trinityreduce, reuse, and recycle.
JS: But there's a lot of religion in LAST CALL, especially Catholicism.
LP: I've always had an interest in religion, especially since it's been
the cause of so many wars and so much strife. Also, my earliest childhood memory is of my mother yelling, "Jesus Christ, is it ever going to stop snowing?" One of my favorite stories is how in the late 1300s there were two dueling popes, Clement VII and Urban VI, both busily excommunicating each other. Finally, a council was called to decide between them. Pietro Pilarghi, who helped bring about the council, made himself pope and told the others to take a hike. Neither did, and so then there were three popes. As for making Rosamond a Catholic, when I was growing up outside of Buffalo in the 1970s, eighty percent of the population was Catholic. As James Joyce famously said about his faith, Catholicism means "Here comes everybody!" Catholics live out loud in a terrific way. So every- where you turned there was a big church, battalions of habited nuns, outdoor celebrations on feast days, and of course the Friday fish fry. (Word of the Vatican II council that ended in 1965 apparently hadn't yet reached Buffalo. Cowboy comedian Will Rogers once explained that he wanted to be in Buffalo when the world ended because it would happen there five years later.) So my friends were constantly dashing off to Mass, confession, religious instruction, and CYO (Catholic Youth Organization). Having had so much exposure to that particular faith, I thought it would be interesting to set up a sort of fictional showdown between an atheist and a Roman Catholic. Also, if Rosie had been a Theosophist, I don't think the story would work as well because there aren't the lifestyle constraints and concept of an afterlife to work with. And worse, I would have had to do research.
JS: I notice you have a pair of snazzy new red-and-blue bowling shoes. Is there a big game tonight?
LP: Not tonight, but I haven't given up on my idea of bringing about world peace through bowling. It's a sport that allows almost everyone to play, regardless of race, religion, economic background, and body type. You can wear a sombrero, burka, kilt, saffron robe, or whatever you like.
JS: So what's next? I've seen you scribbling on your jeans, which usually means a new book is in the works.
LP: After BEGINNER'S LUCK came out people asked, "What happens to
Hallie?" It was open-ended, so I've written a sequel called Heart's Desire. Hallie has finished her first year away at college and returns to the Stockton household for the summer, which is in a greater state of chaos than usual, if that's possible. Gil and Bernard have broken up, and Ottavio is pressuring Olivia to marry him. Meanwhile, Hallie is contemplating that age-old teenage dilemma: Should she or shouldn't she?
© Copyright 2004, Laura Pedersen. All rights reserved.
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AUTHOR TALK:
Julie Sciandra and Laura Pedersen have been friends for years and worked together at various times. They recently sat down to talk about life and Laura's book BEGINNER'S LUCK after bowling. (Julie won, but only by a few pins, and there will definitely be a rematch.)
JS: You shouldn't have asked me to do this. I know too much.
LP: That's the reason I can't get rid of you.
JS: Let's start with the cooking. There's a picture of you in the kitchen with a big red X through it. You're the one who blew up the potato because you didn't know enough to poke holes in it!
LP: You should talk, Miss Lipton Cup-a-Soup. Anyway, that's why it's called fiction. I can write about food even if I can't cook it myself. Nothing bad ever happens to a writer. It's all material.
JS: Same with the flowers. You're allergic to almost anything outside.
LP: But I love to look at them. Pictures are best. However, feel free to bring me chocolate anytime. The Irish have a saying: "You can't eat flowers."
JS: I've noticed that all your stories involve these large families and yet you grew up as an only child. Are you stealing from the Pyne family again?
LP: Mostly. They lived behind me and had two parents, nine kids, two dogs, and a cat. I spent a lot of time over there when I was growing up. It was a predominantly Catholic neighborhood, and several families had enough kids for their own football teams.
JS: And what about these Christian families? Your parents divorced when you were a teenager and are so liberal that they probably vote left-handed.
LP: Buffalo, where I grew up, is a melting pot of every ethnicity and religion. When immigrants came to New York from Europe, many headed upstate to work in the grain elevators and steel mills. At my public high school we had everything--Baptist, Jewish, Catholic, Presbyterian, Greek Orthodox. I believe that truth can be found in almost all religions but that no one religion holds all the truth.
JS: But you're Unitarian. Aren't the people at your church going to burn you on a question mark for making fun of them in the book?
LP: They laugh at themselves more than anyone else does. Worst case is that I'll get hit over the head with a clipboard. The real reason they're going to be mad is that the official name is "Unitarian Universalist," and they're sticklers about that. But with ten syllables and twenty-one letters it would take up the entire book.
JS: Two of the main characters, Olivia and Bernard Stockton, are rather eccentric. Are they based on real people?
LP: Not specifically. I've had several terrific teachers and mentors throughout my life. I've also known many type A personalities, gamblers, bohemians, and oddballs, especially having worked on Wall Street in the 1980s and then in journalism and television. And I must confess that for the most part I'm charmed by them all--their terrific energy, idealism, creative vocabulary, and love of life. Also, growing up in the Unitarian Universalist Church exposed me to a large number of protesters, peaceniks, petitioners, and so forth.
JS: What did you steal from yourself? Give me one similarity between you and Hallie and one difference.
LP: I gambled as a kid. I'm an only child. My dad is an only child. His father was an only child. My mom has a brother and sister, but they don't have any children. So it was all these grown-ups and me. They weren't about to start playing Chutes and Ladders and Barrel of Monkeys. When I was five my mom taught me poker, and later I learned to count cards at blackjack. But I can only do math when I'm betting or there's a dollar sign in front of the numbers. Otherwise I'm a disaster. The major difference between Hallie and me is that I always knew what I wanted to do with my life, and if my parents had any expectations they kept them so well hidden that they haven't surfaced to this day.
JS: So what happens to Hallie after the book ends?
LP: She grows up and one day there's a cousin, niece, nephew, or neighbor's kid who can't talk to his or her parents and so she returns the favor of lending a sympathetic ear. Then they all join hands and sing "Will the Circle Be Unbroken" in a round.
JS: Yeah, sure they do. I can ask you anything and you have to answer, right?
LP: Yes, there are electrodes attached to my fingertips.
JS: What's the one thing you wouldn't want readers to know about you?
LP: As a teenager I didn't exactly volunteer the information that my father was a folksinger. But now I don't mind. I suppose I wouldn't want people to know about the shoes, the pigs, and the Knicks.
JS: I know about the shoes. When no one is around you have some of the worst shoes. The boxes they came in would look better on your feet than the shoes themselves. And I know about the pigs. You took care of the pigs on a farm when you were a kid, became emotionally overinvolved, and now everyone gives you pig paraphernalia (except bacon!). But what's with the New York Knicks? They're the local basketball team.
LP: I wrote a story for The New York Times and spelled it "Nicks." Of course, my editor fixed it before we went to print, but it became clear how little I knew about sports.
JS: But you played soccer in high school.
LP: That's why Hallie plays soccer. It's the only game I know how to play. Though she's much better than I was.
JS: I believe your claim to fame is never having scored a goal in four years.
LP: I was a fullback. We're just supposed to stand tall near the goal, more like security guards than athletes. However, I did score once. Though it was for the other team. My heel caught the ball and chucked it into our own goal.
JS: I was curious as to why there wasn't a dog in Beginner's Luck. You love dogs.
LP: The Stocktons had a dog named Buster, but he's dead by the time Hallie arrives, though he's still listed in the phone book. I think in the movie version the town will be the setting for a fight between two rival gangs of dogs, corgis and Chihuahuas, and it will be choreographed as a dance sequence like in West Side Story.
JS: I've seen you wandering around with scraps of paper falling out of your pockets, which means you're working on another book. Spill the beans.
LP: Last Call is a surprising romantic comedy about a somewhat alcoholic dying Scotsman who falls in love with a cloistered nun who also happens to be terminally ill.
JS: It doesn't sound romantic or comedic.
LP: That's the surprise.
© Copyright 2003, Laura Pedersen. All rights reserved.
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BIO:
Laura Pedersen was born in Buffalo, New York (one of "God's frozen people") in 1965, at the height of The Folk Music Scare. (For details of misspent youth see essay at www.literal-latte.com/pederson.html).
After finishing high school in 1983 she moved to Manhattan and began working on The American Stock Exchange, a time when showing up combined with basic computation skills could be parlayed into a career. She chronicled these years in her first book, PLAY MONEY.
Having vowed to become anything but a journalist and with no conception of what a semicolon does, Laura spent the better part of the 1990s writing for The New York Times.
In 1994 President Clinton honored her as one of Ten Outstanding Young Americans. She has appeared on TV shows including "Oprah," "Good Morning American," "Primetime Live," and "David Letterman".
In 2001, her first novel, GOING AWAY PARTY, won the Three Oaks Prize for Fiction and was published by Storyline Press. BEGINNER'S LUCK was published by Ballantine Books in 2003 and subsequently chosen for the Barnes & Noble "Discover Great New Writers" program, Borders "Original Voices," and as a featured alternate for The Literary Guild. BEGINNER'S LUCK has been optioned as a feature film starring Brittany Snow (TV's "American Dreams") as Hallie.
The latest novel, LAST CALL, will arrive in stores on January 2, 2004. And HEART'S DESIRE, the sequel to BEGINNER'S LUCK, will be available sometime next year.
Laura lives in New York City, teaches reading and trades Yu-Gi-Oh! cards at the Booker T. Washington Learning Center in East Harlem, and is a member of the national literary association P.E.N. (poets, essayists and novelists).
© Copyright 2003, Laura Pedersen. All rights reserved.
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