BIO

Katie Roiphe received her Ph.D. from Princeton in English literature. Her articles have appeared in the New York Times, The Washington Post, Slate, Esquire, Vogue, Harper’s, and the New Yorker. Her previous books include THE MORNING AFTER, LAST NIGHT IN PARADISE, and a novel, STILL SHE HAUNTS ME. She lives in New York.

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INTERVIEW

June 29, 2007

UNCOMMON ARRANGEMENTS is a nonfiction work that examines seven unconventional marriages from the early 20th-century literary circuit. In this interview with Bookreporter.com's Sarah Rachel Egelman, author Katie Roiphe describes the personal circumstances that prompted her to begin researching these historical relationships and elaborates on similar problems that can arise in present-day unions. She also explains how the focus of her book gradually evolved, reveals what surprised her most in her research and shares her thoughts on what kept these tumultuous marriages together.

Bookreporter.com: In UNCOMMON ARRANGEMENTS you write about seven unconventional Edwardian marriages and the crises that occurred in each of them. What brought you to this topic, and who was the first couple you researched?
 
Katie Roiphe: I began thinking about this subject as my own marriage was falling apart. Unlike other probably healthier people, my response to personal calamity was to turn to my bookshelf. I started pouring over memoirs, diaries, and letters of writers and artists I admire to answer my consuming questions about relationships. I have been obsessed with H. G. Wells and Rebecca West for a long time, and Wells's perplexing marriage was the first one I began to research.
 
BRC: Although this is a book about marriages, it really focuses on the women in these particular relationships. Was this your intention from the beginning, or was that the way the book evolved?
 
KR: That was definitely not my intention. I tried not to look at these couples in terms of victims and aggressors, which seems to me like the least interesting way to think about a marriage. I say at one point in the book that when the men are monstrous, the women have a role in creating their particular monster, and I certainly believe this. But still, I admit, I often ended up being more sympathetic to the women.
 
BRC: For each of the marriages you examine, you choose a moment of crisis as a starting point. What did this approach afford you as a writer and researcher? What can we learn about these figures in terms of how they handled their problems?
 
KR: One reason I was interested in that particular structure --- a crisis in a marriage and how it is resolved or not resolved --- is that it exposes the drama so common in all marriages. I was interested in the question of how one spends a long life together, and how one endures ordinary and extraordinary unhappiness. And somehow, this structure allowed me a glimpse into that subject. One learns a great deal about these characters from how they handle crisis: from Vanessa Bell's quietness and imagination in the face of difficulty, to John Middleton Murry's utter self-absorption during his wife's illness, to Well's transcendent self-satisfaction through his complicated ménages, one sees these figures at their most creative, and most awful. 
 
BRC: Who, would you say, was the most radical of the subjects you studied?
 
KR: This is maybe an indirect answer to this question, but what interested me was how many of the most radical figures were actually quite in thrall to tradition: even figures like H. G. Wells or Vanessa Bell, who seemed quite bohemian and progressive, had their own peculiar infatuations with traditional roles.
 
BRC: The relationships you examine were often turbulent and complicated, and sometimes downright unhappy. Why do you think these partners chose to remain in their marriages?
 
KR: For one thing, divorce was still much more of a taboo than it is now. Also, I think one can't underestimate the enduring power of marriage, and the hold it continues to have on our imagination even after a relationship has deteriorated beyond repair. Divorce is an incredible act of violence, and not everyone is capable of it.
 
BRC: Which of the figures in the book is most interesting to you and why? Which of the couples best overcame their individual marital challenges, and how?
 
KR: Well, they are all interesting to me. I have spent so much time researching them that they are all a little bit alive to me. In a way, it is like asking someone to choose between their own children. I love Rebecca West because she was brave, and tough, and brilliant. I love Katherine Mansfield because of her great imaginative feat in transforming John Middleton Murry into a romantic hero. I love Vanessa Bell because she managed to invent a completely original structure for her emotional life that, in many ways, worked. I suppose one could say that Ottoline and Philip Morrell, and Vera Brittain and George Catlin overcame their difficulties, and somehow endured as couples. Vanessa and Clive Bell managed to remain true friends even after their marriage dissolved, which is certainly heroic and unusual.
 
BRC: The stories in UNCOMMON ARRANGEMENTS reminded me of the relationships of Frida Kahlo and Diego Rivera, and Simone de Beauvoir and Jean-Paul Satre. Are there other famous or infamous unconventional marriages or relationships that you think fit some of the patterns we find in your book?
 
KR: There are quite a few, yes. One of the most obvious is Vita Sackville West and her husband, whose highly unusual and successful union is chronicled in their son's wonderful book, PORTRAIT OF A MARRIAGE. There are many other couples I can think of who had uncommon arrangements: Graham Greene and his wife, Edith Wharton and her husband, Margaret Sanger and her husband. (Margaret Sanger, by the way, for sheer gossip, also had an affair with H. G. Wells, like many of the women I write about in the book....)
 
BRC: After all your research, do you think we learn anything about modern-day marriage from these couples?
 
KR: Many of the issues these couples grappled with we still struggle with today. Take for instance what Radclyffe Hall called "the infinite sadness of fulfilled desire." How does one balance the need for settled life with the desire for freshness? How does one reconcile our comfort in traditions with our desire for equality? What is the difference between the story we tell ourselves about our relationships, and the way we actually experience them? All of these issues are still with us. One of the other things that struck me in the research of this book is how much happens in a marriage when you are not looking, how distances accumulate without one's realizing what is happening. This felt to me very true to life, and it was interesting to see it play out over decades in the marriages I was studying.
 
BRC: How does UNCOMMON ARRANGEMENTS fit in your other books and research, especially your writing about feminism?
 
KR: Several people have recently suggested to me that all my books have somehow been in defense of what I call in this one "wild unsensible emotion." And in some sense I think this is true. I have always written about the ways in which we try to make order and subdue wilder emotions with rationality and politics. I have always written about the clash between our more conventional longings and our rogue desires. I have also been interested in the ways in which political language fails to speak to our most intimate experience of life. So they all fit together, my obsessions.

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