A perfect combination of candor and humor, Joni Rodgers' BALD IN
THE LAND OF BIG HAIR struck a chord with readers worldwide. Diagnosed
with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma in her early thirties, Rodgers' story
of survival is not only compelling and poignant (and all those other
adjectives so often used to describe memoirs), but also flat-out
funny. And frankly, it's a rare person who can laugh about cancer
--- "Hi, I'm Joni, and I'm a sucking black hole of emotional need
right now. My hobbies are taking drugs, napping and calling people
I hardly know for emergency child care. Wanna be my friend?" Senior
writer Jana Siciliano was fortunate enough to ask Rodgers a series
of questions about the evolution of BALD IN THE LAND OF BIG HAIR,
the difficult process of getting the book published, what's next
for Rodgers, and much more.
BRC: BALD IN THE LAND OF BIG HAIR is a wonderful title. What
particular incident inspired it?
JR: During my first few months
of chemo, my husband Gary insisted we keep working out at a health
club several times a week, and there was always a lot of big hair
wranglin' going on in the locker room. One day, Gary made a comment
about being the only chubby middle-aged man amongst all those young
and studly weight lifters, and I said, "You think that's tough?
Try being the only bald girl in the big hair capital of America!"
He hooted --- and if I get a laugh out of him, I know it's a keeper.
BRC: As a writer yourself, did you check out other writers'
work on the subject of cancer and recovery? What particular books
gave you a good perspective on your situation on days when you couldn't
quite be as "up" as you hoped to be?
JR: Most of the cancer stories
I read during treatment were long on melodrama and short on humor,
and more often than not, the protagonist didn't make it to the last
chapter; so instead of reading "cancer books", I began a quest to
read all the Pulitzer-winning novels since 1950. I became very depressed
when I was first in remission, and the book AFTER CANCER: A GUIDE
TO YOUR NEW LIFE by Dr. Wendy Schlessel Harpham (a physician, author,
and fellow lymphoma survivor) was a Godsend. It had the hard information
I needed along with her own triumphant story (she's still alive
and kickin'!). I also loved TALK BEFORE SLEEP by Elizabeth Berg,
LOVE, MEDICINE, AND MIRACLES by Dr. Bernie Seigel, and WHY HEALING
HAPPENS by Dr. O.T. Bonnett.
BRC: As a radio personality, what did you learn that helped
you communicate better with the people surrounding you when you
were sick?
JR: Disc jockeys learn to
nutshell thoughts into brief, concise comments, and that's important
when talking to doctors. They sit through the same litany of complaints
twenty times a day, so unless you're specific and brief, they may
tune out without even realizing it. Interviewing people on my radio
shows also taught me to ask direct questions and recognize the difference
between a real answer and a dodge. Some doctors don't want to admit
they can't answer a question, so they give a placebo answer that
makes you feel better until you get home and actually think about
it. I'd rather hear the truth, even if the truth is "I don't know."
BRC: You are so candid about your experiences --- did you consult
your family members before writing about them and their relationship
to your illness and recovery? If so, how did their reactions alter
your writing, if at all?
JR: I kept the manuscript
pretty much to myself while it was under construction. I have great
respect for both the privacy and opinions of my husband, parents,
and siblings, and I'm a compulsive pleaser, so it would have been
easy to spin some happy-go-lucky fairy tale about this chin-up gal
in a zippety-doo-da world. But what would be the value in that?
When the book was finished, I offered Gary --- who is a very private
person --- the opportunity to read it and told him I wouldn't pursue
having it published unless he was solidly okay with it. He declined,
and still hasn't read it. He says he has no desire to revisit the
experience, but respects my choice to go out on a limb in an effort
to help people. I'm incredibly blessed to have him on my side. My
parents read BALD just before it was released, and while they were
understandably uncomfortable with certain passages, they are unconditionally
supportive and genuinely proud of the attention the book is getting.
BRC: You have so many roles in your life, the most intense
of which is MOM. What was your main concern with your kids the entire
time you were going through your illness?
JR: Well, of course, just
remaining on the planet was my main concern. I knew how my death
would alter the landscape of their lives. On a day to day basis,
Gary and I tried hard to keep things as normal as possible, and
we promised to answer every question truthfully. I think that's
so important. This was happening to them, too. We had to recognize
that they were entitled to their feelings and needed to play an
active role in my treatment. We became the Swiss Family Rodgers;
shipwrecked and beset by pirates, but hanging in there together.
BRC: What was the inspiration for the book? What day did you
just decide --- I have to write this down? And did you hope others
would learn from your experiences or did you just want to get stuff
off your chest?
JR: A psychologist told me
I'd be able to move on from this experience only after I found a
way to use it to help someone else. He was so right! Helping others
is empowering and lifts our eyes up from our own funk of despair.
I volunteered at MD Anderson Cancer Center and offered through the
guidance counselor at my kids' elementary school to help two young
moms who were going through chemo. After my first novel was published,
I realized, "Oh! God wants me to be a writer!" I set out to write
the book I needed but couldn't find when I was in chemo; a book
that doesn't sugar coat the truth but offers a small light at the
end of a long, dark tunnel. I also wanted --- for readers and for
myself --- to set the experience in the greater context of a life,
the message being, "Cancer is not who I am. It's just one thing
(albeit one HUGE thing) that happened to me."
BRC: How has your relationship with the world changed after
writing this book? What reactions do you get from people who have
read the book and DON'T have cancer? It's such a moving and funny
book that I would think it would touch pretty much anyone, even
if they have never gone through this stuff before themselves.
JR: I'm amazed and delighted
that BALD is being embraced by so many different people on so many
different levels. Many readers see BALD as a parable for the refining
fires in their own lives, others just take it as a good read and,
of course, everyone loves to laugh. In any case, I feel privileged
to have them open their hearts to it, and I'm so touched by the
wonderful emails and letters I receive. As far as my relationship
with the world, I feel more at peace with other people --- and myself!
For the first time in my life, I feel like I'm exactly where I'm
supposed to be.
BRC: Tell us a little about the writing of the book --- how
difficult it was for you at the beginning or did it get harder as
it went on?
JR: It definitely became more
difficult as the book evolved. At first, I tried hard to be lighthearted
and fluffy with that famous "positive attitude" all cancer patients
are expected to plaster over their actual emotions. But I kept thinking
of the person for whom I was writing this book: the woman who's
going through hell. I've been that woman, and I couldn't bear to
leave her all alone, while I pretended to be the Unsinkable Molly
Brown. This memoir took me by the hand like the Ghost of Christmas
Past, forcing me to truly know all the fear, anger, and grief I
was too numb to feel at the time, and that was hard. But it also
helped me understand and forgive myself and a few other people who
disappointed me. And it opened my eyes to see how much I grew as
a result of the journey.
BRC: What did you NOT put in the book that you wish you had?
JR: Thank you for asking that!
Most people ask me what I regret putting IN! (Not a thing.) I do
regret leaving out a passage about my sister Diana. I realized too
late that it was accidentally cut along with a chapter I decided
was too full of grinding, irrelevant medical stuff. I did mention
my other sisters, Janis and Linda, and how wonderful they were,
but now I wish I'd devoted a separate chapter to these three fabulous
women and what they meant to me during this experience and throughout
my life.
BRC: What was the initial response of editors to your book?
Was it a hard sell?
JR: A very hard sell. Most
editors and agents never even read beyond the word "cancer", but
I don't resent them for that. Typically, "cancer books" haven't
done well in the marketplace. A few others tried to tell me it was
in bad taste --- that "people with cancer don't laugh about it."
(Wrong!) By the hand of God and a series of odd little coincidences,
I connected with my agent Laurie Harper, who immediately knew this
was not the typical "cancer book", and worked like a stubborn little
lawn tractor until she found an editor --- Marjorie Braman at Harper
Collins --- who felt the same way. Marjorie and her staff have done
a fantastic job presenting the book as a memoir instead of a "cancer
book," and whatever success it ultimately has will be due to her
sharp instincts about that.
BRC: Speaking simply as a writer, what specific advice do you
have for someone writing a memoir?
JR: Tell the truth, but recognize
it as your truth --- biased, subjective, and influenced by unspoken
motives. Examine those motives, and allow a good long settling-in
period before you even consider publishing. BALD was a seven year
journey for me --- two years to live the story, three years to write
it, and another twenty months to get it published. The process was
agonizing and slow as the mills of the Lord's justice, but anything
less would have detracted from the end result.
BRC: What was the first thing you ever wrote and do you still
remember the reaction you got from those who read it?
JR: When I was in junior high,
my friends and I were very into True Confessions and other magazines
that featured these really awful little stories like "My Passionate
Italian Adventure" and "Could My Lover Be the West End Strangler?!"
Once we'd exhausted our supply, I started writing the same sort
of inane, slightly lurid stories, starring us and the cute boys
in our class, and selling them for a dollar. Response was…predictable.
BRC: What will you be working on next?
JR: I have a good start on
another novel, and I've been working on short stories for a possible
collection. Fiction is my passion, but I'd also love to write a
weekly column. (A recent review compared me to Molly Ivins and Anna
Quindlen and, of course, that went straight to my head!)
Visit my website, at http://www.jonirodgers.com/.
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