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BIO
Rosalind Miles is a well-known and critically acclaimed English novelist, essayist, and broadcaster. Her novels, including GUENEVERE, I, ELIZABETH, and RETURN TO EDEN, have been international bestsellers.
PAST INTERVIW
June 9, 2000
At the very least most readers are familiar with the cast of characters in the Arthurian legend, so of course the name Guenevere rings a bell. She is Arthur's wife, Lancelot's lover, Morgan's competition. Rosalind Miles, a historian and author, delves deeply into the legend focusing on Guenevere in the first book of her medieval trilogy. Join Bookreporter.com's Debbie Weiner as she interviews Miles and gets an inside look at GUENEVERE.
TBR: There have been so many books and stories written about the legend of King
Arthur and Camelot. What spurred you to write a trilogy on this theme, beginning with
GUENEVERE?
RM: Although the tales of King Arthur and the Round
Table have been told for centuries, amazingly no one has ever told the story from
Guenevere's point of view. Yet she is the central character and the whole drama arises out
of the fact that both Arthur and Lancelot are in love with her. Guenevere also struck me
as a fascinating character in her own right. She was a queen who ruled her own kingdom,
she owned the Round Table and she had her own band of knights, so she was powerful and
central in her own world in a way that most women can only dream of. The two most exciting
men of her age were in love with her all their lives, so she must have had something
special. So I decided to tell her story in three volumes because I did not want to leave
any of it out. I felt it had to be a trilogy because the story follows Guenevere
throughout her life.
TBR: You are best known for your scholarly books on Ben Johnson and critical studies of
Shakespeare's Measure for Measure. GUENEVERE is very romantic and imaginative. What led
you to depart from the areas you are known for? Have you ever been afraid that writing
this trilogy will affect your reputation as a scholar?
RM: There's always a risk in moving from one field to
another but I tried to bring the same level of historical research and detailed writing to
the Arthurian period as I had to the Elizabethans. I very much hope that the work I did on
Shakespeare, Ben Jonson and others will stand the test of time, but I was ready to move
into a more imaginative form of expression. My first published works were these nonfiction
studies on literary themes, but I always wanted to write novels. The very first thing I
ever wrote was a story when I was ten.
TBR: Others have already provided differing viewpoints of the legend and the
personalities involved. E. B. White wrote mostly from Arthur's viewpoint,
Marion Zimmer Bradley from Morgan's, and Mary Stewart used Merlin as her focal
point. Although you certainly present Guenevere's voice in your novel, you also
present others as well. Why did you choose to write mostly from Guenevere's point of view?
Why not solely from her point of view?
RM: I was originally tempted to write Guenevere's
story entirely from her viewpoint, using the first-person narrative, so that the readers
would have the impression that Guenevere was talking directly to them. I had used this
method when writing about Queen Elizabeth I and that resulted in I ELIZABETH, a historical
novel telling the Virgin Queen's story in her own words just as she might have written it
herself. But in the Arthurian saga, all the characters around Guenevere have such rich
lives of their own that I really wanted to show that, and to make the Camelot tapestry as
rich and full as I could. It also helps to round out Guenevere's character when we see her
interacting with the other characters and hear their point of view.
TBR: Very little is actually known about Arthur and his court's place in history. How
did you research this book?
RM: I spent years immersing myself in the history of
the times; but I also would go into the major libraries of Britain and the US and pull up
anything they had on Arthur, Guenevere, Lancelot, or any of the other key characters like
Morgan or Gawain. I found some amazing and unusual material that way. I also wanted to
give the readers a real feel of the Celtic world so I made the effort to go into the myths
and legends of the Celts, including their wonderful sayings and poetry, and all that all
went into the final result.
TBR: What made you portray both Guenevere and Arthur as individuals whose roles were
chosen more by fate and circumstance than by their own desires?
RM: To me the idea of free will and the importance of
the autonomy of the individual is a very modern one. It is a luxury that people simply did
not have in former times. Queens like Guenevere in particular are driven by duty and
cannot think only of themselves. In the past people had their paths mapped out for them by
forces outside their control, which they thought of as fate or destiny. In the Old World
today, traditional societies are still governed by such ideas far more than by the belief
that we are all entitled to fulfill our own desires.
TBR: Marion Zimmer Bradley depicts Avalon and the religion surrounding it as spiritual
and mystical, very Mother-Earth/Goddess centered. Why did you keep a more distant
perspective on the mysticism of Avalon?
RM: I thought Marion Zimmer Bradley's earthy,
primitive Avalon was just wonderful; but I wanted to suggest something more remote and
magical. Bradley's spiritualism is intensely physical and I hoped to recapture some of the
mysticism of the Celts. Their beliefs spoke to men as well as women and they were very
interested in the moon and stars and the meaning behind the awe-inspiring beauty of the
natural world.
TBR: Throughout GUENEVERE, you show the constant struggle between the Church and the
Druid religion. However, one may ask why the main characters, especially Arthur, don't
seem to have any personal conflicts between the two?
RM: Arthur sees himself rather as our Prince Charles
does in Britain today, as a ruler whose task it is to support and unite all faiths. Arthur
is also a warrior, not a deep thinker, with a strong and simple integrity which means that
the conflicts he faces are external challenges, not internal ones. Guenevere was reared in
the Goddess religion which is also the basis of her rule as a Queen, so she would not
dream of abandoning that. And in all early societies like this, loyalty is tribal, not
negotiable. Like football supporters, people would choose their allegiance and stick to
it, not agonize over which side they were on.
TBR: You don't spare the Church at all in your writing. Even though it is well known
that the Church did try to destroy all other religions that stood in its path, have you
received any flack for your often harsh portrayal?
RM: It is so well known that the early Christian
church was very militant and hostile to other faiths that most readers have no problem
with the portrayal as it is. Some are even intrigued by the idea of muscular Christian
soldiers, battling for their faith. For those who see the whole Arthurian saga as a
Christian parable, this version is challenging, however.
TBR: As I recall, in the past Merlin and Taliesin were the same person; the names just
were used for different roles (Taliesin was the Druid priest name, while Merlin was used
when the person assumed the role of Arthur's teacher). Why did you choose to depict Merlin
and Taliesin as two separate people?
RM: I found the sources very interesting on the
different roles of Taliesin and Merlin and it seemed more dramatically fruitful to explore
them through two different characters. Merlin is also a more advanced trickster and
shape-shifter than Taliesin and I felt there could be a fascinating contrast there between
Taliesin's white magic and Merlin's darker powers.
TBR: Merlin was always a wise Druid priest, a healer and a wizard; but one who always
had the best interests of the country, and Arthur, in mind. Here, you portray him as a
madman. Your depiction of Morgan also differs widely from others. Here, she is a victim of
the Church, not an acolyte of the Lady of the Lake. Why did you choose these different
paths for Merlin and Morgan?
RM: Merlin is sincerely convinced that he is right,
and no one has ever challenged this. But to further his plans he ruthlessly brings about
the death of an innocent man, Duke Gorlois, the husband of Queen Igraine; destroys
Igraine's life; and takes away her child (she never sees her own baby, Arthur, again until
he is grown up). Meanwhile her young daughters are also taken from their mother and
dispatched to wretched fates. Guenevere also suffers from Merlin's trickery when he tries
to stop Arthur from marrying her. So from the point of view of the women in the saga,
Merlin is not so wise and kind. But I do not see him as a madman, more as a dreamer in
love with his own grand schemes.
With Morgan I have not forgotten the connection with Avalon. That comes up later in the
trilogy. For the start of the story I wanted to explore what it would have meant for a
young girl brought up in the Goddess religion to be sent to a Christian nunnery, which we
know was a harsh regime. Through it all, Morgan remains a woman of extraordinary spiritual
power.
With both these characters I tried to go back to the original sources and rethink what the
actions and events actually meant, rather than uncritically accepting the verdict of later
writers and the received version of the tale.
TBR: The love affair between Guenevere and Lancelot is rationalized by Arthur's madness
after Morgan's seduction, and his estrangement from Guenevere. Yet despite her love for
Lancelot, she returns to Arthur at the first hint of a reconciliation. What are
your thoughts on this?
RM: Almost every woman has an undying attachment to
her first true love, especially when he becomes her husband, her partner and the father of
her child. Guenevere's love for Lancelot does not cancel out her feeling for Arthur and
she is always hopeful that the love between them can be rekindled and their marriage
restored. She also feels a strong sense of duty to Arthur and to the land, since they are
High King and Queen and not free to please themselves. Like many women throughout history
she is unwilling to write off her marriage on the basis of one episode of adultery, and
she loves Arthur enough to offer him another chance.
TBR: GUENEVERE is the first part in your medieval trilogy. Have you mapped out the
three books in their entirety? Where will the next book, KNIGHT OF THE SACRED LAKE, take
us?
RM: I have had the whole story in my head from the
first. Because it is so rich and full and goes over so many years, it was important to
work out all the characters and the sequence of events. I also knew that this was the only
way to create narrative tension, with everything happening in the right place. The reader
does not want to have constant holdups in the story where we have to go back and explain
something that should have taken place a while ago.
All three books of the trilogy are self-contained, but THE KNIGHT OF THE SACRED LAKE takes
us further with the story of Sir Lancelot, whose full title is of course Sir Lancelot of
the Lake. With Lancelot and his cousins Bors and Lionel, we cross the Narrow Sea to Little
Britain as Lancelot revisits the Sacred Lake of his boyhood in the Forest of Broceliande.
But Camelot, Avalon and all the other familiar locations are in the book as well.
TBR: Besides your own of course, what is your favorite retelling of the Arthurian
legend?
RM: My favourite version of the Arthurian story is
that of Sir Thomas Malory, published in 1475. Malory wrote Morte D'Arthur while in prison
awaiting trial for serious crimes, though this may only have meant that he was on the
losing side in England's Wars of the Roses, which went on for many years. Perhaps because
he knew loss and suffering, his writing has for me the depth and poignance of a true work
of art.
TBR: After the Arthurian legend, what other point in history and myth interests you
enough to write about?
RM: The Arthurian world is so wonderful to me that I
am not ready to leave it yet. Fortunately the legends feature many more unforgettable
characters and powerful themes. My next trilogy is about Ysolde, who was Guenevere's
friend and also the Queen of the Island of the West (today's Ireland) in her own right.
Her true love Sir Tristan is Lancelot's best friend at the Round Table, and the only
knight who can ever challenge Lancelot in the field. Tristan is also the King of Lyonesse
just as Lancelot has his own kingdom in Benoic. The story of Tristan and Ysolde takes
place in Cornwall and Ireland as well as at Camelot, so this is the same magical circle of
Guenevere and Arthur but with an added dimension of the Celtic world.
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